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		<title>Comment on Satellite photo and map by wclt</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/gallery-2/satellite-photos-and-maps/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wclt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 17:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.wclt.org/assets/pdfs/TrilliumTrailMap.pdf

We are in the process of migrating this site to the Land Trust&#039;s main website: www.wclt.org

This map will also be posted here soon too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wclt.org/assets/pdfs/TrilliumTrailMap.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.wclt.org/assets/pdfs/TrilliumTrailMap.pdf</a></p>
<p>We are in the process of migrating this site to the Land Trust&#8217;s main website: <a href="http://www.wclt.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.wclt.org</a></p>
<p>This map will also be posted here soon too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Donors by Mickie Gundersen</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/supporters/donors/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickie Gundersen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I donated money to Trillum Woods last year. I don&#039;t see my name on the donor list. Am I looking at the wrong list? Mickie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I donated money to Trillum Woods last year. I don&#8217;t see my name on the donor list. Am I looking at the wrong list? Mickie</p>
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		<title>Comment on Satellite photo and map by Paul Maciocha</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/gallery-2/satellite-photos-and-maps/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Maciocha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where can I get a map of the Trillium property?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can I get a map of the Trillium property?</p>
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		<title>Comment on About the Trillium Woods by wclt</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/about-the-trillium-woods/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wclt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, that&#039;s the plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that&#8217;s the plan.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About the Trillium Woods by zach</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/about-the-trillium-woods/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we deer hunt there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we deer hunt there?</p>
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		<title>Comment on About the Trillium Woods by wclt</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/about-the-trillium-woods/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wclt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lynn, the entrance to the forest is right here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://goo.gl/maps/ENNM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://goo.gl/maps/ENNM&lt;/a&gt;. Zoom out, and it should give you a sense of where it is.

The boundaries of the forest are on this map: &lt;a href=&quot;http://wclt.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/trillium_property_aerial1.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wclt.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/trillium_property_aerial1.jpg&lt;/a&gt; 

It&#039;s really closer to Freeland than Greenbank--on the west side of the highway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn, the entrance to the forest is right here: <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/ENNM" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/maps/ENNM</a>. Zoom out, and it should give you a sense of where it is.</p>
<p>The boundaries of the forest are on this map: <a href="http://wclt.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/trillium_property_aerial1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://wclt.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/trillium_property_aerial1.jpg</a> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really closer to Freeland than Greenbank&#8211;on the west side of the highway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About the Trillium Woods by Lynn Blackwell</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/about-the-trillium-woods/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn Blackwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m very puzzled as to the location of the site.  My family owned property on Admiralty Inlet between Bush Point and Lagoon Point for many years.  The photo I&#039;m looking at above looks like it is just south of Deception Pass, and the point on the left side of the picture - Keystone?   I&#039;m probably way off, but it would help a lot to show us where it is on a map.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very puzzled as to the location of the site.  My family owned property on Admiralty Inlet between Bush Point and Lagoon Point for many years.  The photo I&#8217;m looking at above looks like it is just south of Deception Pass, and the point on the left side of the picture &#8211; Keystone?   I&#8217;m probably way off, but it would help a lot to show us where it is on a map.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FAQ by Liz Williamson</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/faq/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Williamson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was at an Island County meeting today, to the best of my memory of what was said during this meeting that the 80 acres for the Freeland sewer project would propbably not be enough land and to the best of my recolection it was said that the sewer station would need more like 120 acres. The Trillium property was used during this same conversation. Is the Trillium property also where the Freeland sewer station will be located on or next too, and if so, if additional acerage is needed for the Freeland sewer station could this offset the cost of money still needed too aquire the Trillium Woods property?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at an Island County meeting today, to the best of my memory of what was said during this meeting that the 80 acres for the Freeland sewer project would propbably not be enough land and to the best of my recolection it was said that the sewer station would need more like 120 acres. The Trillium property was used during this same conversation. Is the Trillium property also where the Freeland sewer station will be located on or next too, and if so, if additional acerage is needed for the Freeland sewer station could this offset the cost of money still needed too aquire the Trillium Woods property?</p>
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		<title>Comment on FAQ by petramartin</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/faq/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[petramartin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Specifically what projections do you have that indicate how much money will be needed, annually, to maintain this forest so that it doesn&#039;t get overrun by invaisive plants or trees? 

Invasive plants are most often dealt with by volunteers.  There is a large cadre of volunteers ready and willing to maintain the Trillium property once it is acquired. The lead group will likely be the Backcountry Horsemen (who have already committed to this task) who also maintain the 600-acre Putney Woods near Langley and have for many years.  According to the County, the Backcountry Horsemen volunteers take care of “everything” in Putney Woods except the approximately $80/month cost of the portable toilet and an occasional trash can pick-up.  The Trillium property is very similar to Putney Woods.  In addition to these volunteers, the Land Trust will host work parties to deal with problematic invasive plants.  If there is an invasive issue that cannot be dealt with by volunteers, the Land Trust will pay for the cost of dealing with the problem out of the Trillium property’s $50,000+ stewardship fund.  We maintain individual stewardship funds for the Saratoga Woods, Krueger Farm forest, and the Davis Slough Heronry, all of which are owned by public entities.  When the public agency requests funds, we pay for the costs out of these funds.  The Land Trust will also apply to various grant funding sources to help pay for any costs of keeping the property in a natural state. Bottom line, the cost to maintain the forest so it doesn’t get overrun by invasive plants is minimal.
 
Other than buiding and maintaining trails, what is the private sector willing to commit to this forest? 

The Land Trust has committed to raise the first $50,000 for the Trillium property stewardship fund, which will be available to Island County to pay for any maintenance, operation and stewardship costs.  The County and Land Trust estimate that this funding will last at least 5-8 years due to the low cost of maintaining the property (costs were derived from comparison to the Putney Woods and the Saratoga Woods).  The initial cost will be to ensure that motorized vehicles are controlled on the property to prevent resource damage and liability issues.  This will involve strategic gating and fencing.  The Land Trust has also committed to going after grant funding opportunities to pay for planning, restoration, and necessary infrastructure.  This property will be part of Island County’s “Adopt a Park” program.  As part of this, the Backcountry Horsemen and many individuals have committed to patrolling the property on a regular basis, removing invasive plants, and picking up garbage (in addition to maintaining trails). As has been done at Putney Woods, volunteers will also pay for and put in parking areas, signs, kiosks, etc., and  Frontier Building Supply has committed $1,000 per year in materials for the next three years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specifically what projections do you have that indicate how much money will be needed, annually, to maintain this forest so that it doesn&#8217;t get overrun by invaisive plants or trees? </p>
<p>Invasive plants are most often dealt with by volunteers.  There is a large cadre of volunteers ready and willing to maintain the Trillium property once it is acquired. The lead group will likely be the Backcountry Horsemen (who have already committed to this task) who also maintain the 600-acre Putney Woods near Langley and have for many years.  According to the County, the Backcountry Horsemen volunteers take care of “everything” in Putney Woods except the approximately $80/month cost of the portable toilet and an occasional trash can pick-up.  The Trillium property is very similar to Putney Woods.  In addition to these volunteers, the Land Trust will host work parties to deal with problematic invasive plants.  If there is an invasive issue that cannot be dealt with by volunteers, the Land Trust will pay for the cost of dealing with the problem out of the Trillium property’s $50,000+ stewardship fund.  We maintain individual stewardship funds for the Saratoga Woods, Krueger Farm forest, and the Davis Slough Heronry, all of which are owned by public entities.  When the public agency requests funds, we pay for the costs out of these funds.  The Land Trust will also apply to various grant funding sources to help pay for any costs of keeping the property in a natural state. Bottom line, the cost to maintain the forest so it doesn’t get overrun by invasive plants is minimal.</p>
<p>Other than buiding and maintaining trails, what is the private sector willing to commit to this forest? </p>
<p>The Land Trust has committed to raise the first $50,000 for the Trillium property stewardship fund, which will be available to Island County to pay for any maintenance, operation and stewardship costs.  The County and Land Trust estimate that this funding will last at least 5-8 years due to the low cost of maintaining the property (costs were derived from comparison to the Putney Woods and the Saratoga Woods).  The initial cost will be to ensure that motorized vehicles are controlled on the property to prevent resource damage and liability issues.  This will involve strategic gating and fencing.  The Land Trust has also committed to going after grant funding opportunities to pay for planning, restoration, and necessary infrastructure.  This property will be part of Island County’s “Adopt a Park” program.  As part of this, the Backcountry Horsemen and many individuals have committed to patrolling the property on a regular basis, removing invasive plants, and picking up garbage (in addition to maintaining trails). As has been done at Putney Woods, volunteers will also pay for and put in parking areas, signs, kiosks, etc., and  Frontier Building Supply has committed $1,000 per year in materials for the next three years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FAQ by mike</title>
		<link>http://savetheforestnow.org/faq/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This comment bothers me a great deal &quot;Studies show that delivering services to residential development costs more than the community expects to gain in taxes and other benefits.&quot;

County, State, Federal and even City governments exist to provide certain things for the benefit of the people.  Providing roads, utility connections or things that provide means to housing people adequately are not to be looked at as &quot;profit centers&quot; or even &quot;loss centers&quot; for the government entities.   They are necessary and normal costs.  

Here is another point of view on this subject, from a very experienced planning expert.
In this month&#039;s Planning Advisor column, Pat Dugan, Dugan Consulting Services, questions the assumption that single-family houses do not support themselves, arguing that this common assumption is, at best, overly simplistic.

http://www.mrsc.org/focus/pladvisor/pla0410.aspx

For an objective analysis, read this article.

Thanks,

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment bothers me a great deal &#8220;Studies show that delivering services to residential development costs more than the community expects to gain in taxes and other benefits.&#8221;</p>
<p>County, State, Federal and even City governments exist to provide certain things for the benefit of the people.  Providing roads, utility connections or things that provide means to housing people adequately are not to be looked at as &#8220;profit centers&#8221; or even &#8220;loss centers&#8221; for the government entities.   They are necessary and normal costs.  </p>
<p>Here is another point of view on this subject, from a very experienced planning expert.<br />
In this month&#8217;s Planning Advisor column, Pat Dugan, Dugan Consulting Services, questions the assumption that single-family houses do not support themselves, arguing that this common assumption is, at best, overly simplistic.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mrsc.org/focus/pladvisor/pla0410.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.mrsc.org/focus/pladvisor/pla0410.aspx</a></p>
<p>For an objective analysis, read this article.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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